Motorcycle Safety Gone Crazy ?

Murdoch · Motorcycle Safety Gone Crazy ?

I`ve just seen a "consultation pare" on motorcycle safety proposals from the Qld Government
Its quite eye opening reading as there is some drastic measures being considered in it
Just some of these include :

-Lights On
-Hi Vis Clothing
-Minimum level of "safe" riding gear
-New licensing system
-Surrender license when not in use
-extra fees & costs

And they mention exploring "alternate" methods of speed enforcement
Have a good read of it as it may be coming to a state near you if we don't stop it :

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/r..._safety_consultation_paper_v3.pdf

At the rear of it is a survey you can fill out
There is also an online Poll you can take to give feedback to the proposals at :

http://www.getinvolved.qld.gov.au...179B72-5056-BE42-04844199DF028161

More info at :

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/H...ke/Motorbike_safety_consultation/

Aussie XB12SS

Bloody hell.

Murdoch

It gets worse

Did you read the whole paper

White helmets

Aussie XB12SS

Murdoch

This is the MRA Qld`s response to the "Consultation Paper"
I found it quite interesting :

Click to download file

Murdoch

Here is a reply from the QLD govt :

Dear Mr Murdoch

Thank you for your email dated 17 July 2008 to the Honourable John Mickel
MP, Minister for Transport, Trade, Employment and Industrial Relations
regarding your concerns for front number plates on motorbikes. The
Minister has asked that I respond on his behalf.

The Queensland Government recognises the importance of road safety to all
road user groups, including vulnerable groups such as motorbike riders. It
is also acknowledged that excessive speed does contribute to a proportion
of crashes involving motorbikes. In fact, in the 2006 Queensland Road
Safety Summit, representatives identified improving speed enforcement of
motorbikes as a high priority action.

Queensland Transport supports initiatives that will improve vehicle
identification, which is an essential component of effective speed
enforcement. The issue of the requirement for a front identifier for
motorbikes was most recently raised by Victoria and is currently being
considered at a national level. Queensland Transport representatives are
aware of this project and have raised a number of practical concerns that
must be addressed in order to identify the best and most appropriate means
of having motorbikes identified from the front.

I am advised that there are a number of issues to be considered prior to
the making of a requirement for a front number plate to be fitted to a
motorbike. Among those issues is the current design of motorbikes which in
many cases does not easily allow for a front number plate to be attached.

Queensland Transport advises that options being considered include the use
of adhesive backed decals showing the registration number of the motorbike
and, methods of fixing brackets to hold a number plate to the front of a
motorbike.

It is necessary to investigate each of these types of identifiers and the
method used to fix the identifier to ensure that there is no impact on the
safety of the motorbike, rider or other road user through an alteration of
the handling, cooling or operation of the motorbike.

If you require any further information, please call Mr Andreas Blahous,
Land Transport and Safety on (07) 3253 4260.

Yours sincerely

JON PERSLEY
Assistant Policy Advisor

Correspondence Management
Departmental Liaison Unit
Phone: 07 3237 1111 | Fax: 07 3306 7055 | Email:
Correspondence.Management.QT@transport.qld.gov.au QUEENSLAND TRANSPORT |
Corporate Office Division | Executive and Ministerial Services Branch

twoguns

i heard this on the radio the other. day.

some old toss who admitted himself that for years he has been driving, said that we should all have those fluro vests, so he could make us out.

i would suggest that he get his eyes checked refularly as if he has visual issues he is the one that shouldnt be driving!

its a fukd up world and rather than address poor driving attitudes, they jsut want to make everybody else adapt.

fukn stupid. people who dont drive should loose their license also, huh. fukn idiots.

twoguns

i have no problem making people do a rider course, but lets understand that people make choices.

they understand when riding a bike that there is greater risk. why the fuk do we need others to impose boundaries on that. if some are not or dont feel safe with bikes, then stay the fuk away. those that want to accept the risk should be allowed.

same as any activity that involves risk. sky diving, snow skiing, base jumping (just made legal here is nsw), chess playing.

i like a system i saw in the states a few years back. you get absolute top health cover, and you can ride helemt free.

they are saying if you are dumb enough and pay the cover, then who cares, you are covered to do as you want. no imposition on the public.

do the same here. have a private health scheme for bikers, and you pay to be in that scheme, then you can do as you wish. helmt/no helmet, stilletos, leathers, or speedos. your call. you come off, then you are at least medically covered for your own actions.
the risk is your own, and you accpet the burden of it yourself. then its up to the individual as to how much they want to impact their own lives.

and this bullshit about imposing your injury and stress on ambulance and hospitals. well fuk that too. i have great repect for the medical profession and all tey do, but lets face it, the again had a choice. they know that people will come in with varying forms of injury!

lets not stop at motorcyclist... what about fukn push bike riders. they get 50-60klms an hour and they where skin type lycra, and a small piece of foam. why stop at legislation of motorbikes. lets look out for the pushy as well, huh.

damn i saw a bloke that came off his pushy while iw as waiting at hosptial. the poor bastard has more skin loss and damage than me. (albiet i was in full kit - black by the way) i didnt hear him getting a chat about protection and danger, but i did!

ah but, its ok as its accepted for pushies.

fukn stupid fuking society sometimes! backwards, fuk'd up and without commonsense.

tazXB12R

we need to start protesting, i totally agree twoguns (beware of dog entre at own risk).

aussiexbox

okay,Vic had a protest ride,why do we not do it in all states?I am against the front plate,basically because front facing speed cameras were supposed to be outlawed due to invasion of privacy(ie some judge cought gettin head from said woman,not wife)strange how we get one set of rules for the masses and another for the rich or infamous.I will not put a dirty great sticker on the front of my bike nor will I put a steel knife like plate on there as well.Flouro colours farg off,i pay good money for my riding kit,I wear hi vis for work,not riding my bike,I have reflectors and hard wired lights for that.
It's protest time peeps what do we all reckon?
I'd throw my hand up for trying to organise NSW anyway.
Phil

aussiexbox

Scotty you got a copy of said letter you wrote??

Murdoch

Phil,

I used the letter & addresses Lazza posted :

http://aussievtwins.com/about273.html

& yes we should be doing something about it

Fuzz

Good luck to ya'll in this fight, it sounds like they need some formal education....

buellbabe

FIGHT IT!!!!!

Cos if you guys let the beaurocrats win then its a sure bet our f**ken Govt will try and pull the same stunt.

Ironically on the rare occasions when I have ridden with other people who are in white helmets and fluoro gear it has become apparent very early in the ride that those riders are bloody useless... true! every time. Maybe they are wearing that gear as a warning: "steer clear of me cos I can't ride for shit"... LOL

ajturbo

Bombardier

I don't know about the rest of you but I will feel one hundred and ten percent safer on the road when I have that front rego sticker/plate!!!!!!

f**k me dead with a radish!!!

I am currently in the court system in Queensland defending a charge because some blind f**k did not even have the brains to look in his rear view mirror before he crossed the road in front of me to turn right!

The little shitball has even got a mate to back him up with a crock of shit to try and slip his responsibility.

I am now minus one bike, a $600 helmet and a few years off my life with worry because our sum total of driver awareness consists of putting a message in front of drivers where they will always look that said "Look out for motorbikes" on the vehicle rego sticker!!! How bloody hard up for reading material would you have to be to even bother looking at the back of your rego sticker!!!!

Most people would be hard up to know that it actually shows the day month and year when it was registered from let alone some obscure message on the back.

Now, because I have decided to defend the said charge I have been issued with a little piece of paper that I am supposed to carry with me to say that I am free to go at large pending the outcome of the trial. For a fucking traffic offence!!!!!!! Nasty bad motorcyclist me.

How about the fact that it is now illegal for the transport people to ask you to submit to an eye test before issueing you with a licence as they are not suitably qualified to carry out the said test. f**k me sideways with a fish fork!!!!! It does not take a Rhoades Scholar to get a person to stand a certain distance from a chart and read it back to you.

I have lost count of the number of times I have had dickheads look me in the eye and then proceed to drive out in front of me - and i wear an ORANGE reflective jacket!!!!!

Whew....nearly out of breath ..... Thanks for listening.

I think I will send a little note on to the Minister asking why he beleives the motorcyclist is vulnerable party. Most bikers do not fall off of their own accord. It takes an obstacle to cause the accident which is most often a dufus in a car!

buellbabe

twoguns

i believe and do this all the time. i ride agressive in traffic. i do not look at a car in teh eye, and expect them to flinch. they are bigger than me. i take the high ground. i make my room, and i push my space. i change lanes when i want, and that means i have moved and snuck a gap or too. but i do believe that if i am making hte choices and the challenges then its up to them to call my bluff. more often than not, they dont and give me my space. and damn it helps nice when your bike makes the good noise! i look at the front wheels a lot, and the back of the cars, you can tell the direction more often or not, and as said by many here. you look in their eyes and they still come forward as if they havent seen you or dont care.
blip the throttle and let em know i am around, but i dont stick around. i get on and in front.

i share your pain bombardier... i had a car cut me off on a bend. he was speeding and coming from teh oposite direction down hill towards me. the only way he was making that bend was by using the whole road. left me with a bit of gutter. didnt stop either...

revken

As a minister of religion I'm supposed to be all meek and mild and turn the other cheek and shit. STUFF THAT! These pricks just dont realise they are fucking with my life and the life of my pillion - either my Fiance or my son. I'm sick of the bullshit. We have all the anti-bikie laws here, not yet acted upon by the cops it seems, but creating an atmosphere where "bikie" bashing is starting to happen, and by "bikie" I mean anyone on a bike, not just outlaws. Actually, most people won't cross an outlaw cos they know the consequences probably won't be very nice. The last accident I had I wasnt wearing black and I was wearing my priest's collar and got t-boned by a blonde in a nissan sports car. I wear black now, have a black bike with black loud pipes and i think it is much more noticeable. Ok, rant over.

Bueller

How about road condition and it's impact on vulnerable motorcyclists. Bluestone speed humps and medians strips that are not marked along raised edges. Painting these while will save more lives on wet nights than white helmets.

zedman

Heres an idea knob heads, stand on one leg, rub your tummy pat your head, then turn the camera around. The magical fairies will sprinkle some magic dust on it and voila you will be able to take photos of the rear of a bike, which just so happens, has a number plate.........................wow its amazing........................

buellbabe

2guns... I ride fairly aggressively in traffic but I am also a defensive rider and expect the unexpected! I temper my aggression with courtesy though cos I am sharing the motorway with the same people each morning and arvo so don't really want to piss anyone off.

twoguns

i understand buellbabe...

i wave thank you as i pass by too!

im not angry aggressive, maybe i should say that i am assertive, and sometimes i am very assertive!

certainly gotta say though, that out of all the bikes ive riden in sydney traffic, jemma in her matt black guise and veetwin exhaust, got the most repsect!

nikki better watch out... she may get 'furred'yet!

Fuzz

It truly can be a small world, especially in regards to motorcycle safety...The dolts here are no better at being courteous, repectful, or intelligent in the way they drive, or in the way they try to legislate safety.